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<blockquote data-quote="Mel O&#039;Drama" data-source="post: 244639" data-attributes="member: 23"><p>Yes? I mean yes.</p><p></p><p>There's also a degree of uniformity to it. If the first two pairs of contestants do the "so", it becomes the done thing. Not exactly peer pressure, but a mirroring mechanism for fitting in.</p><p></p><p>Unusually only one contestant did the "so" thing tonight (but he did it a lot). And he was the only person under 50.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can appreciate that. There are many threads in the Rant Room that don't appeal to me at all. I tried to title this one so that people who don't care for this type of topic could choose to avoid it if they wished.</p><p></p><p>My opening points are somewhat trivial and petty, but they're rooted in my interest in language. I'm fascinated by its different uses, but also by my own growing resistance to changes. I opened with the caveat that it's based on my own experiences and I've tried to explore why these particular expressions might bother me while others don't. For my part, the first post was annoyance as much at <u><em>myself</em></u> for being a grumpy old fart who is no longer cool enough to keep up with or understand the language used around me as it is the language I'm intolerant towards. You've eloquently expressed self-awareness in your understanding of why your tolerance to imperfect grammar is high. I was trying to explore why mine - in the examples given - is low.</p><p></p><p>The thread wasn't opened with the intention of making anyone feel bad, and I'm truly sorry that this is the case. There are other Rant Room threads that have discussed pronunciation and have generated discussion. That was the intention with this one.</p><p></p><p>As well as venting a little bit (which is the nature of the beast in this forum), I hoped to gain an understanding about people's experience with these phrases. And I have. For what it's worth, thanks to the discussion in this thread I've gained some insight into one of the expressions that bothered me thanks to James's suggestion that it possibly originated in a world I don't visit (social media). The discussion has been helpful (to me, at least) on that level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ha ha. Yes. I've found myself scrutinising what I've written more carefully in this thread than others. Earlier on, a line of Sid Fairgate's popped into my head: something like "If you're going to criticise others then your own behaviour needs to be above reproach". And my grammar and punctuation are <em>far</em> from perfect, as the semi-colon talk has reminded me. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah. I didn't think the things I've mentioned were necessarily an American/UK English difference and I fully enjoy seeing all members speaking in a way that reflects their locations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mel O'Drama, post: 244639, member: 23"] Yes? I mean yes. There's also a degree of uniformity to it. If the first two pairs of contestants do the "so", it becomes the done thing. Not exactly peer pressure, but a mirroring mechanism for fitting in. Unusually only one contestant did the "so" thing tonight (but he did it a lot). And he was the only person under 50. I can appreciate that. There are many threads in the Rant Room that don't appeal to me at all. I tried to title this one so that people who don't care for this type of topic could choose to avoid it if they wished. My opening points are somewhat trivial and petty, but they're rooted in my interest in language. I'm fascinated by its different uses, but also by my own growing resistance to changes. I opened with the caveat that it's based on my own experiences and I've tried to explore why these particular expressions might bother me while others don't. For my part, the first post was annoyance as much at [U][I]myself[/I][/U] for being a grumpy old fart who is no longer cool enough to keep up with or understand the language used around me as it is the language I'm intolerant towards. You've eloquently expressed self-awareness in your understanding of why your tolerance to imperfect grammar is high. I was trying to explore why mine - in the examples given - is low. The thread wasn't opened with the intention of making anyone feel bad, and I'm truly sorry that this is the case. There are other Rant Room threads that have discussed pronunciation and have generated discussion. That was the intention with this one. As well as venting a little bit (which is the nature of the beast in this forum), I hoped to gain an understanding about people's experience with these phrases. And I have. For what it's worth, thanks to the discussion in this thread I've gained some insight into one of the expressions that bothered me thanks to James's suggestion that it possibly originated in a world I don't visit (social media). The discussion has been helpful (to me, at least) on that level. Ha ha. Yes. I've found myself scrutinising what I've written more carefully in this thread than others. Earlier on, a line of Sid Fairgate's popped into my head: something like "If you're going to criticise others then your own behaviour needs to be above reproach". And my grammar and punctuation are [I]far[/I] from perfect, as the semi-colon talk has reminded me. :oops: Yeah. I didn't think the things I've mentioned were necessarily an American/UK English difference and I fully enjoy seeing all members speaking in a way that reflects their locations. [/QUOTE]
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